Day 17 of cycle ewcm and day 19 again ewcm. I look at it this way though.

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Day 17 of cycle ewcm and day 19 again ewcm. this happened to me this cycle too! I got EWCM and LH levels started to rise for two days then both the cm and LH levels went down, now Lh levels are going up again. I don't usually get much cm but since I started taking maca I have seen an increase so trying to learn how to track it. I did an ovulation test at 1pm and again at 5pm and both negative. The time now is 08:04 PM. I get lots of ewcm every cycle and frequently get ewcm again post ovulation right around a day 5-7 blast. The nature of a woman’s cervical mucus will change at different points along her menstrual cycle. I didn’t take the full dose, as when I first started it, it threw my cycle for a loop. Sep 22, 2017 路 I wouldn't always rely on the apps. BabySteppz Original Poster Posted 01-17-16 Just like the title says, today is the first day off my period, cycle day 7, and all day have had quite a lot of ewcm. I ovulated on CD 29 after a couple patches of EWCM on CDs 6-8, 16-19, and 25. It's possible to O pretty early in your cycle. how badly can it affect my girl sway? Anyone had ewcm on ovulation and still had girl? (based on every 4days attempt or once attempt on first +opk) any supplements to take to reduce ewcm? I have been taking zyrtec and cranberry from AF to O but not helping. Sep 16, 2009 路 THe past couple of months we've tried every 2 days from just after my period ends right through what I think is my fertile time. The fertile window is around 5 days with O being the last day. The time now is 10:56 AM. Basically when oestrogen is high you make ewcm so with PCOS sometimes you can have slightly higher levels of oestrogen so I guess that's the reason 馃し Last cycle, I ovulated on the last day of my dose or the day after my last dose on a stair stepping cycle. Locked post. (3 replies) Dec 7, 2018 路 But this cycle I had sex on both ewcm days, plus the two OPK days 4-5 days after, and now I’m pregnant. My doctor said ideally that number should be 9 or higher, so she upped my dosage to 5mg of letrozole for the next cycle. Pressure in cervix and vagina. Share Sort by: Best Open comment sort options Best Top New . There isn’t a lot of it just enough for a wet sensation or to the touch on my finger but only a few drops in my underwear. This cycle I thought I was gearing up to ovulate bc my sticks look close to being positive and ive had some one-sided cramping, but I have had no CM Jun 10, 2011 路 Pipbin · 10/06/2011 19:37 This is my first proper cycle since coming off the pill. This is my first cycle off HBC. I always have EWCM on ovulation day. My husband are on cycle #2 of tfab and I had ewcm for 9 days this cycle (this is pretty typical for me). Is it possible, the first time was a surge, and this was ovulation? hi ladies! Just wondering what it means if you get EWCM twice in a cycle? I had it for 4 days, stopped on CD 14 for three days and then yesterday I had some again. These days prove perfect to get pregnant as per the menstrual cycle. One anov cycle every once in a while is no big deal. Then I got my IUD removed on the 21. A week after my positive OPK, my serum progesterone came back at 3. Dec 30, 2024 路 The fertile window is the time during a woman's menstrual cycle when she is most likely to become pregnant. If you I'm on cd21 but yesterday and the day before yesterday I had ewcm. ) Sep 7, 2022 路 Do you ovulate when seeing EWCM? Egg white cervical mucus is a clear, stretchy fluid that you’ll see a few days before ovulation in response to hormonal changes. Today I had EWCM but I'm only on CD 14. Good luck xx d DJ34 Posted 30-12-14 Ive had ewcm since 5dpo thought i had a false surge so tested with opk again & nothing usually get it a day or two b4 AF but not this early xx Emjay001 Original Poster Posted 30-12-14 First cycle was long (60 days) but had relatively regular dry to wet cm shift and only had 2 days of EWCM followed by clear temp shift and dry days again. Usually I notice EWCM around day 14 but I finished my period on Monday/yesterday and last night noticed what looked very like ECWM - and again today. On some days, it may be stretchy, watery, or sticky. Day 14 (Ovulation): In a 28-day cycle, ovulation typically occurs around this time. I had ewcm from day 12 to 15 and bd'd on days 9,11, 13, 14, 15. Studies have found that EWCM highly correlates with accurate determination of the fertile window and ovulation. The Ovulation Cycle: A Quick Recap Understanding your menstrual cycle is crucial in making sense of EWCM and LH surge patterns. EWCM usually occurs just before or during ovulation. CD10/11 wouldn't be terribly strange for someone with a 26 day cycle. There are several changes that occur inside the body of a female and cervical mucus changes are one of them. 6 days ago 路 Others get multiple patches of egg white cervical mucus throughout their cycle. May 7, 2014 路 If you are just using the calendar method, based on nothing other than a 28 day cycle, it will automatically assume that you ovulate exactly mid cycle (usually day 14). EWCM, or egg white cervical mucus, is a key indicator of ovulation, signaling peak fertility in the menstrual cycle. That is easier way to confirm. What you are looking for is slippery stretchy mucous that looks similar to egg whites. However, the discharge from the ovulation process will dry up and become sticky. It could be EWCM. As for your ewcm, if you don't get ewcm I think you go by your wettest day before drying up again and I "think" you would consider yourself 1 dpo when you dry up. So far so good, everything makes sense. I started to use a clear blue fertility monitor this month and got high fertility from day 13 to now (still high) but no Mar 14, 2006 路 The symptoms I felt every day from the day before I had sex to the day I got a positive! At the bottom I'll list the symptoms that were different from my PMS symptoms. Days 15–16: Discharge may remain clear or creamy, with some women still fertile during this window. Today is day 14 and this morning I had absolutely text book EWCM. Talk about frustrating! All times are GMT -7. So, my point is that EWCM doesn't = ovulation. New comments cannot be posted. I don’t usually get a positive OPK until 2-3 days after EWCM started. I get ewcm every cycle for around half a day. The egg only lives for 12-24 hours after it pops out, but the ideal is to have sperm in there ready and waiting when it does, because sperm takes ~7 hours after ejaculation to be capable of penetrating the egg (and can live in your body Aug 14, 2001 路 Last month I had around 3 days ewcm, was a normal 28 day cycle, and my basal temp started at 35. The egg white mucus here can be compared to a raw egg. I'm currently on CD 23. This type of cervical mucus is characterized by its clear, stretchy, and slippery consistency, resembling raw egg whites. Another important thing to note: it took until the previous cycle (so, 7 cycles) before I started getting EWCM after being on BC for Feb 22, 2010 路 For most women the rule is that your best EWCM is the day prior to ovulation, but you'll usually get it for several days leading up to ovulation and sometimes on the day of or after. It says you have a few days of ewcm, then it stops, seemingly the day it stops is your peak day, then immediately after you o, I think it's the progesterone that kicks in straight away and that drys up your CM. Yesterday and today I am having tons… My cycles average 24days. I was wondering what cervical mucus normally looks like before you get the days of the stretchy clear and wet cervical mucus. Dec 23, 2010 路 2nd round of clomid. This month has been totally different! For example, if you consistently notice EWCM but fail to observe other signs of ovulation like a temperature shift or positive OPK results over several cycles, it may be worth consulting with a healthcare professional for further evaluation. When you see this kind of cervical mucous, there is Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen. Hi, I'm on my second cycle of stims, day 7 (cd 9) and still no EWCM. 2:00pm - O time! Uterine cramping and pain at about lasting 4 hours. this cycle i had the same ewcm (ton of it) on cycle day 17 but then it went away. I am currently having quite bad cramps, like af cramps (but no bleeding). All times are GMT -7. I (very stupidly) Googled it in an attempt to find out what timescale it means in terms of ov (like do you ov an hour later, a day later etc) and it said most women under 30 will have an average of 5 DAYS of it and women over 30 an I believe I ovulate on the 17th cycle day every month. If you are interested in charting or learning more about it, click on the chart link in anyone's siggy and you can get to FF and create a free account. I've always taken it as a sign things are working well? MissyW32 Inactive Posted 07-09-15 CD 14: stringy thick ewcm, BD before bed CD 15: very little ewcm, BD before bed CD 16: very little ewcm, moderate creamy white cm, BD before bed CD 17: some stringy ewcm, positive OPK at 7:00pm, BD before bed CD 18: positive OPK, some ewcm. Also to note that my cycles are usually 27-30 days. Sperm can stay alive for several days so even if you haven’t gotten a positive OPK yet, it could still be an optimal time to BD since you want to hit the days before you ovulate. But this cycle I’m on day 33 and after a gradual shift from dry to creamy I’m now on DAY 10 of ewcm with no clear temp shift. Q: What foods increase cervical mucus? Foods rich in healthy fats and nutrients can promote increased cervical mucus production. The first 3-4 I had only a little bit and it slowly increased in amount, and then days 5-6 I had quite a bit, and then days 7-9 it slowly deceased in amount. Ovulation is when your ovaries release an egg to be fertilized by sperm. EWCM I’m always the person that says I rarely see EWCM, but apparently this cycle I’ve got it! My question for everyone that usually sees it though: how soon before ovulation do you see it? I’m at day 11, and my ovulation tests are still VERY negative, but I started noticing a lot of EWCM last night and now again this morning. My question is: can EWCM happen again in a cycle, or did I just ovulate later than I thought? All times are GMT -7. Sep 26, 2008 路 Ovulation in a healthy cycle can be anything from 10 to 16 days before AF is due, and, annoyingly, ovulation can move days from one cycle to the next. I'm on Day 20 today. Not getting a positive OPK on day 17, 18, 19 or 20 was frustrating and scary. Haven’t had sex since around the 10. And then if you get those symptoms again in cd20-23 then do it again. Zoe'sAunt · you! Posted 1 minute ago I am on CD25, usually cycles are 27-28 days. Understanding EWCM and Its Role in the Menstrual Cycle Egg white cervical mucus (EWCM) is a vital component of the menstrual cycle, particularly for those trying to conceive. Now, this CM, is more ewcm like, than the first time it appeared this cycle. Is that typical or does EWCM typically last longer? Or can it go back and forth? We are going to start at the end of May and I don't want to miss the window if I miss the one day of EWCM. Aug 13, 2011 路 I have a cycle of 26 days long and ovulate day 16/17 - no problems conceiving with a 9/10 day luteal phase - think it is only if its under 9 days then it may be cause for concern. Give yourself two days after EWCM discharge, and then start trying to get pregnant for the following seven days. FF confirmed O on cd9 which puts me at 10DPO today. i keep hoping for more, but nothing. I just started taking B complex and prenatal vitamins this cycle and I think it's helping me in the EWCM department. A doctor has provided 1 answer Learn how egg white cervical mucus signals peak fertility. This period typically includes the five days leading up to ovulation and the day of ovulation itself. Estrogen rises during the first half of the cycle, prompting the production of EWCM around days 10 to 14 in a typical 28-day cycle. I had my first period exactly 28 days after coming off it. trueHey all, I was put on 2. Hi there, I promised myself I'd stop posting so much but I was overly excited after going to use the restroom after lunch today to find a large blob of EWCM on my toilet paper- yay (CD19)! As this is my first cycle off BC, I wanted some others to chime in regarding how many days of EWCM you typically notice before things dry up down there (I know it's unique to each person)? I even saw some I would roll with it just in case. It typically appears during the fertile window, which occurs just before ovulation. It's only been 4 or 5 days anyways. This type of discharge can continue for up to 1 to 2 days after ovulation. FF says I ovulated on Day 16 after I had three hi… This phenomenon means you may get pregnant any day within a few days after noticing EWCM discharge. Just dont waste chances. On cycle day 17, usually at night, I feel I have had ewcm for up to 5 days, I think it can really depend and vary from woman to woman and cycle to cycle. EWCM is not present at this time. After the Feb 21, 2020 路 So I'm currently CD17, third month of TTC #1 Noted EWCM on CD12, CD15 and now again on CD17? I'm regular 28 day cycle so expected ovulation already Aug 25, 2016 路 A thread for over sharing and TMI'ing me with your ewcm experiences. Hormonal Changes Triggering EWCM and Ovulation Hormones orchestrate the menstrual cycle with remarkable precision. Find out when to expect egg white cervical mucus, how to identify it Do you only bleed for 3 days? You can have EWCM are any point in your cycle however, I agree that cd 4 is odd. For instance, if a woman has a regular cycle of approximately 28 days, ovulation usually occurs around day 14. I have wet fertile mucus on cycle day 13, then globs of ewcm on cycle day 14,15,16, then on day 17 in the morning it is scant and sticky, and finally by afternoon to early evening, it doesn't exist. 60 ish right before my period. 4. May 30, 2021 路 Summary Exact Answer: 5 Days Egg white cervical mucus or in short (EWCM) can be seen on several charts. If your having the ewcm it could be that you ovulating now x 0 Reply Search for a thread Anonymous 22/09/2017 at 9:04 pm I am going to start observing my temps again next cycle because I have had ewcm for like 9 days this month, 7 straight with a 2-3 day break of creamy in between and now 2 more of ewcm. What are the common ovulation symptoms? It's normal to have EWCM twice in a menstrual cycle, each time there is the normal increase in estrogen -- once when you ovulate, and again when there is a second rise in estrogen without ovulation. Oct 21, 2025 路 I lost the pregnancy at 4w3d, and only bled for four days. To identify your most fertile days, it is helpful to monitor your cervical mucous. Oct 23, 2014 路 Ovulated on day 14 with ewcm, but a week later i had tons of ewcm again but negative opk, what is wrong ? did i ovulate twice? trying to conceive. good luck to you! Dec 6, 2024 路 The presence of EWCM is one of the most noticeable physical signs that ovulation is imminent. As hannah said ovulation can vary, and your luteal phase will remain the same. As long as you hit one of those 3 days, you've about maxed out chances. The primary Mar 2, 2009 路 Hi ladies - just after a 2nd opinion please. A 16 day luteal phase is within average range. Yet another question about CM Mar 7, 2006 ewcm a fertile daybut the last day that you see the ewcm would be considered your peak fertile day. I've been ovulating around cd13 lately so I was just wondering how many days people have noticed ewcm before ovulation? And do people get it this early into their cycle normally? Original poster's comments (3) 1 comment Advertisement I had EWCM on November 8 and then AGAIN on november 17. Egg white cervical mucus (EWCM) is stretchy, like raw egg white, and vital to determining your most fertile days. Follicular Phase: Leading up to ovulation, estrogen ramps up, causing more mucus production. I got very obvious EWCM on CD 15, then my temperature spiked on the morning of CD 17. We are only starting to try next cycle but I’ve been keeping a close eye on my body this month to kinda get ready. I usually have EWCM for 4-5 days. (In fact, with a 26 day cycle assuming an average length luteal phase I would have expected you to ovulate on cd12, not CD14. As your cycle is regular you should be ovulating around the same time, but without knowing your luteal phase it is impossible to say what cycle day. co. Thanks for your help, all! 馃榾 Archived post. Could I be ovulating early? Or is it possible to have EWCM 5-8 days before you ovulate? Jan 24, 2022 路 What is EGG-WHITE CERVICAL MUCUS? Egg white cervical mucus (EWCM) is a type of cervical fluid that a woman’s body produces during her most fertile period just before ovulation occurs. Some women have 4/5/6 days EWCM per cycle and some only 1. . Dec 29, 2014 路 Yep I also had a lot of ewcm all through my last cycle and at 12dpo I had a browny tinge of ewcm that made me think I was ovulating again much to my surprise I got my bfp. That has continued through this AM but with a little less EWCM (a LOT on cd18/19like wore a panty liner to avoid getting it on pants). Last cycle I think I ovulated at about day 19. Multiple pregnancy tests have been negative but I was supposed to start my period 4 days ago. MIKAoKendra Well-Known Member Joined Aug 25, 2010 Messages 54 Reaction score 0 Nov 3, 2010 #4 AmorT said: This past cycle looking at my chart the last day I had EWCM , is the day I ovulated CD19 Best of luck to you During my 'unexplained anov' cycles, I got EWCM, sore boobs and just felt like my body was trying to O but I never got the temp shift. I had EWCM a high soft cervix CD14. In this case, she might begin noticing EWCM around days 9 to 13. The cervical mucus is responsible for a woman’s pregnancy because EWCM signals that the woman is ready to conceive or become pregnant. I just had EWCM for 1 day and now it's just watery. I am on cd 17 of a usual 26-28 day cycle. Have sex on as many EWCM days as you can and you will be going a long way towards cutting down the number of months it takes to conceive. Hard to say which time did the deed, but previous cycles I had only waited until I had a positive OPK, not the days before, and didn’t get pregnant, or had a chemical pregnancy. 0 on cd2 and rose to 36. These days of EWCM may alternate with days of less fertile cervical mucus. it was just a little thinner than usual. One or two toilet trips and it's come and gone. I had a few days of creamy cervical mucus but now it is wet. usually get positive opk on cycle day 12 using clearblue smiley face digital, day 11 plenty of ewcm, negative opk, day 12 plenty of ewcm… Does PCOS increase the total number of days you get EWCM, or does it just give you EWCM in several different instances throughout your cycle before you actually o? I thought having so many days of EWCM could be a sign of PCOS, but a friend says no. So CD 7-8, ultrasound and blood work on CD 9 showed ovulation had already occured, they were not sure how long it had been exactly Anyway now Im on metformin and I got ewcm on day 10/11/12 this cycle but I think I had the most fertile ewcm on day 10 so thought it was on day 10 - but then it went to creamy cm, but if I take it from m cervix it is ewcm again over the last few days. Also just do it just in case. The negative OPK means you don't have enough LH to turn a positive OPK yet, so more likely than not you're not having your LH surge. The first and only time so far. Do you use opk? Check with opks as well. The time now is 01:05 PM. is it normal/ok to have ewcm Jan 17, 2018 路 Egg white cervical mucus. Jul 7, 2013 路 It is a sign that ovulation is going to happen soon. I'm not 100% sure when I ovulate because I don't temp or use OPKs but my cycles are regularly either 28 days or 30 days so if I didn't OV until cd 19 or 20, that seems really late to me. If your going for the relaxed aproach, having sex when you have ewcm and continuing for 3 days after it stops is The best days for sex are the 3 days before ovulation, so it's not a 12-hour window. I was way too tight and mucus was way too thick. as my calculations af was Mar 4, 2011 路 i usually have long cycles - 40+ days and last month i ovulated on cycle day 29 and only though to test with opk because i had a ton of ewcm. This type of mucus is the best for sperm to swim and survive inside the body until they can fertilize the egg. It signifies the fertile window when conception is most likely to occur. Is this normal to get before the fertile mucus? I am on cycle day 17. Like @TheBorg7of9 said, EWCM means you have higher estrogen levels. See full list on fertilityfamily. Posibly. This current cycle my EWCM started 2 days ago right before bed on CD11, the Premom app predicted I ovulated yesterday on CD12 but just this morning I got my LH peak, and Hey ladies, just wondering how long your ewcm lasts? Min lasted mon-sat this cycle and im trying to work out when I ov'd. Sep 11, 2020 路 I'm CD 17 now, no positive OPK, but for the last 3 days actually EWCM! So I'm really excited about the EWCM, but concerned about the negative OPK and no temp shift yet. When i was ck CP today, my 1st time ever i found a huge EWCM, it stretched… I had 8 days of ewcm last cycle! This cycle I had 6 And then never got a positive opk until about a week later when I had ewcm AGAIN (for a more reasonable 3 days). *TMI Warning* 2 days of normal bleeding, third day was heavy bleeding with very large clots, and 4th day hardly anything, some brown Jun 10, 2025 路 The longest run of EWCM I've ever had is 12 days! I actually conceived that cycle, but on other cycles with long runs I haven't, so I don't think it means much as such. I figured I just wasn’t going to ovulate this cycle. Flash forward to Day 21 - I get my positive OPK but mucus is thick and nothing like EWCM. Can't find an answer in TCOYF. The timing can vary based on individual cycles and hormonal fluctuations. Over those days, I feel light twinges from random sides, which I know is the eggs getting ready. Cycle Phases and EWCM Menstrual Phase (Days 1–5): During menstruation, cervical mucus production is minimal or absent as the uterine lining sheds. This mucus signals that follicles in the ovary are maturing and preparing for release. This cycle when I did actually O, I had one day of very, very minimal EWCM. Far better to keep an eye on the EWCM and have sex on every day that you see it, the last day of EWCM being the most important, as belgo said. May 22, 2011 路 hi ladies just wanted your opinions really, i am currently on cd 11 and am experiancing EWCM, now i have never had EWCM this early on in my cycle, my cycle is on average 30 days give or take a day or 2 either way and i have temped in past and always seem to ov around cd16-cd19 so do you ladies think its just my body playing tricks>? or should i try and get DH to DTD anyway? my lp is 12-14 days Hi, CD6 and I noticed ewcm this morning. After the ovulation process is over, the mucus will change back to the normal clear to slightly white color. Observing EWCM egg-white cervical mucus twice in a menstrual cycle is no proof of pregnancy. I took 2 a day instead of the 3 recommended, and that seemed to help ease the PMS symptoms without overwhelming my system. uk Apr 1, 2010 路 Does anyone else get multiple patches of EWCM? I had it on days 13-14, 17, and 19-20. Let’s break it down: Menstrual Phase: It all starts with menstruation, the shedding of the uterine lining. Can You Have EWCM And Not Ovulate? The answer is yes; having EWCM does not guarantee that you will ovulate. only if the EWCM goes away and comes back a few times without ovulating. We tried doing it but it wouldn’t even work. This is not always true! For example I usually ovulate on day 15 and I have a 28 day cycle. AnywayI have regular periods, 28 day cycles. I usually get EWCM a few days before ovulation and have been tracking with OPKs but the last cycle it stopped the day before my LH peak (which is rapid onset and rises/peaks within 24 hrs), so I guess 2 days before ovulation. Monitoring your body’s signals is essential for accurately predicting ovulation. Hey everyone. 5mg of letrozole my last cycle. Last cycle was 41 days and this one I'm on CD30 Definitely missed our chance if I did O on CD28/29. Getting real tired of it as we’re TTA. I look at it this way though. Good luck Advertisement | page continues below KarmaKameleon Posted 06-27-19 Tested everyday starring on d5 of my usually 30 day cycle and I got a positive lh surge on day 12 but no sign of ewcm at all. These are internet cheapy test. Many women don't get a positive OPK till the day before, or even day of, O. Understand its role in conception and how to track it for better chances of pregnancy. I usually O about CD 19-22 of my cycle. Typically I see the ewcm at or near day 18. Like suuuuuper stretchy ewcm… Oct 13, 2008 路 My EWCM always seems less/gone on the day when I ovulate (masses of it in the few days before). The Egg-White Cervical Mucus (EWCM) is so-called because Apr 16, 2025 路 Days 11–13: Fertile-quality egg white cervical mucus (EWCM) appears—clear, stretchy, and slippery, similar to raw egg whites. Mar 28, 2011 路 I always have creamy, a coupld of days of ewcm during ov, and then back to creamy day after ov! The cycle I got this bfp, i never really had ewcm. But normally, when I see ewcm, it's not very stretchy (to be fair, never really played with it to see lol) but this time it was clear as day, crazy stretchy. Or it could not be and you will see a return to more fertile fluid again. TurtleDumo Posted 12-17-15 A transition from more fertile (EWCM or watery) to less fertile (creamy, sticky) or dry could indicate ovulation was successful. Then last week my temperature seemed a bit erratic, and I noticed EWCM again on CD 19, but this time much less. CD 63/36: Positive BABI opk in afternoon, breast tenderness, ewcm (bought that 100 count babi tests, TOTALLY JINXED MYSELF) CD 64/37 1 dpo: negative OPK, Breast tenderness, bloated, ewcm, OBGYN appt today. But, what if you notice ewcm after your chart shows that you have ovulated. I O'd on CD 12 the first cycle I O'd after my MMC. EWCM is a big clue that you are ovulating so I would go with that, if you don't want to go down the route of temping, opks etc. You should start checking your cervical mucous as soon as your period ends. Jul 23, 2020 路 If you've heard the term egg white cervical mucus (EWCM) you may have wondered what it is and what it means for your fertility. I've had EWCM 12 of the last 17 days Egg white cervical mucous is a fertile sign, right? From everything you have read about cervical fluid and ovulation, you probably know that seeing egg white looking cervical mucous is a sign that ovulation is approaching. Or it's also possible to get multiple patches of fertile CM in a cycle. Have you ever heard of the term ewcm after ovulation? In this article, I will explain what the EWCM means and why it happens. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Like lots of it. but still creamy! Aug 19, 2023 路 Q: How long does EWCM last? A: Egg White Cervical Mucus (EWCM) typically appears a few days before ovulation and lasts for about 2 to 4 days. I am concerned because the first time I had a huge amount of EWCM starting from day 5 (cd 7) and with less follicles, albeit ones that were growing faster. 5mcdj e4xm 2cvbe rao ewj ummkyml otrgof 6o jhr itfky