Hpbt vs amax. Found a great load with 48. ChrisGarrett JoinedMar 2005 Posts 9111 Re: . Oh well,I'll suffer through Jun 24, 2025 · Burns, You Whining [bleep],I enjoy that you are compelled to follow me around and nip heels. But Jul 17, 2024 · Hornady Match 308 Winchester Velocities Running 10 of the 168 grain AMAX loads over a chronograph in 68 degree weather provided these results: 2574 2554 2569 2574 2544 2550 2555 2495 2508 2550 This works out to an average speed of 2547 feet per second out of the 18” barrel on my Ruger American Predator rifle. The prices and availability have been better and the I haven't found a measurable difference in the 168s in my gas gun. Nov 29, 2006 · Re: Hornady 168 A-max vs 168 HPBT @ 1000 The real Hornady BC is lower than either of the two listed above (lower than . Nov 26, 2016 · FYI - in case anyone is interested I tried both the 105 Amax and HPBT today. Hornady 68gr. Due to logistics Nov 29, 2006 · Re: Hornady 168 A-max vs 168 HPBT @ 1000 from the OP, Maybe I was confused but isn't the AMAX what is used in the factory TAP? Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Jun 24, 2025 · Re: 243 with 105: AMax vs HPBT vs Scenar on game??? SamOlson #8188631 10/24/13 Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,893 B Boxer Campfire Tracker Boxer Campfire Tracker B Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,893 Skinners are the most reliable of the upper echelon BC's,Bergers the least. Due to logistics Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Jun 24, 2025 · Re: 243 with 105: AMax vs HPBT vs Scenar on game??? SamOlson #8188631 10/24/13 Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,893 B Boxer Campfire Tracker Boxer Campfire Tracker B Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,893 Skinners are the most reliable of the upper echelon BC's,Bergers the least. Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles 243 with 105: AMax vs HPBT vs Scenar on game??? Jan 1, 2015 · Re: Hornady 208gr AMAX or BTHP? by farm use » Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:33 pm Both work great for sub loads for target play. Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Jun 24, 2025 · Remember the old Columbia House and BMG music days? 12 CD's for a penny, just buy 1 at regular price? Pard's dog had a CD collection the size of your Jun 24, 2025 · Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles 243 with 105: AMax vs HPBT vs Scenar on game??? Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Jun 24, 2025 · Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles 243 with 105: AMax vs HPBT vs Scenar on game??? Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Nov 15, 2009 · The AMAX's polycarbonate tip gives the bullet a higher ballistic coefficient as well as a uniform meplat. Is there any conceivable reason to go with the AMAX instead of the HPBT (like better boat tail angle for transonic stability or something)? I'm leaning toward the HPBT for the extra BC but if there's any argument for the AMAX, I'd love to hear it. I'm trying to understand why even offer a match bullet if the amax is better. ChrisGarrett JoinedMar 2005 Posts 9111 Mar 28, 2013 · 155 HPBT is good to 1k pushed 2900 or faster. 4 grains. Due to logistics Jun 24, 2025 · Re: 243 with 105: AMax vs HPBT vs Scenar on game??? SamOlson #8188631 10/24/13 Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,893 B Boxer Campfire Tracker Boxer Campfire Tracker B Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,893 Skinners are the most reliable of the upper echelon BC's,Bergers the least. But the question is does it make a big difference in the silencing? HSM Match ammunition is designed for shooters who demand precision, consistency, and uncompromising accuracy. Due to logistics Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar May 13, 2014 · Hornday 140gr Amax Vs Hornady 140gr Hpbt MatchI can find the Hornady HPBT MATCH bullets more frequently than I can the 140gr AMAX Bullets. But the question is does it make a big difference in the silencing? Re: SIE 220gr HPBT vs Hornady 208gr A-Max by Phantom30 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:07 pm Think the pressure difference is do to the engraving process when these bullets hit the rifling. They actually have a betetr BC than the the other two. The SMK bullet has a longer contact area. Hornady BTHP I have shot quite a few and they are very accurate. nosler I switched from 142 SMKs to 140 AMAX. can't find anymore amaxes Jun 27, 2009 · If your wanting the heavys try the 75gr Hornady HPBT as they are shorter then the Amax so they work in mags a little better. Thoughts? Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Jun 10, 2015 · A-Max vs BTHP Match? Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting Jun 24, 2025 · Re: 243 with 105: AMax vs HPBT vs Scenar on game??? SamOlson #8188631 10/24/13 Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,893 B Boxer Campfire Tracker Boxer Campfire Tracker B Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,893 Skinners are the most reliable of the upper echelon BC's,Bergers the least. 1/2 MOA in an upgraded M1A Well below Max Load, but Use at your own risk - or start out with a little less powder and work up. If I took a schit in a ZipLoc,you'd want it. Screw the limit. 243 105 amax yesterday, thanks to a bunch of info from guys here, though still in it's infancy, it looks t be a great bullet and load using H-1000 45. I have both 105 amax and HPBT's on the shelf. 8g of Alliant Power Pro 2000MR in LC cases. Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles 243 with 105: AMax vs HPBT vs Scenar on game??? The HPBT has significantly higher BC, but that doesn't necessarily translate to better transonic performance. I've heard good things about both bullets, but first hand experience would be great. hornady 140 match vs. To my surprise velocities were the same per powder charge and point of impact was very close. Both bullets are equally accurate but the AMAX will offer a bit more range. Due to logistics Jun 24, 2025 · Sister and Jughead need their own mailing addresses/PO boxes. BTHP Jump to Latest 33K views 12 replies 8 participants last post by Canuck-IL Dec 17, 2008 D Bullet Lengths I am in the process of adding bullet lengths to the library so that the drift can be easily calculated. Is there any conceivable reason to go with the AMAX instead of the HPBT (like better boat tail angle for transonic stability or something)? The HPBT has significantly higher BC, but that doesn't necessarily translate to better transonic performance. 20 yards/3000 fps and they blew right through a dried Grade 1 railroad Jun 24, 2025 · Scenars are the most robustbut the A-Max is a mainstay. For me its 125/135/168 or 175, and when my suply of 125 runs out, I will just use the 135/168 or 175's The HPBT has significantly higher BC, but that doesn't necessarily translate to better transonic performance. ? Palma (2156) has a differnt bearing lenth and spikier/sharper nose, so the BC is higher. Is there any conceivable reason to go with the AMAX instead of the HPBT (like better boat tail angle for transonic stability or something)? May 13, 2014 · The 140 HPBT is a very good bullet with a BC of . The A-Max design incorporates a secant ogive profile, which reduces drag and contributes to its high ballistic efficiency. Both have great accuracy. 580. The 178s shoot better for me than any 175 from any manufacturer and the ballistics are awesome for longer ranges. But the question is does it make a big difference in the silencing? Jul 24, 2011 · Re: Sierra SMK Vs. The AMAX, which is if anything underrated, is at . Sep 5, 2017 · I'm looking to work up a load in a 6-250 AI. 223, 69gr. May 3, 2018 · The lowest Minimum of those two is Scenar 36. 585 so you aren't giving up a lot of BC points. Feb 10, 2013 · Re: Hornady 168gr A-Max vs 168gr BTHP Either of those bullets would work. Get Bryan Litz's book and you'll get some actual BCs confirmed by testing. Like other hollow points, the bullet expands rapidly upon impact, creating a Dec 14, 2008 · . 5 Sierra 140mk vs. 4, (HPBT 44. 6 gn for the amax. The hollow point boat tail bullet (HP-BT) – also known as the boat tail hollow point or BTHP ammo – is primarily a rifle ammunition used for hunting big game at long range, and is sometimes used as a coyote and wolf ammo. I've become a Hornady fan. I have yet to load the Hornady HPBT MATCH bullets. Both will shoot very accurately and at the ranges you are going to be shooting neither will be a problem. I can see that the bc is slightly better on the amax. Re: SIE 220gr HPBT vs Hornady 208gr A-Max by Phantom30 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:07 pm Think the pressure difference is do to the engraving process when these bullets hit the rifling. HPBT is a HPBT. Laffin'! Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Jun 24, 2025 · 24 HOUR CAMPFIRE FORUMS - THE INTERNET'S ORIGINAL OUTDOORS ONLINE CAMPFIRE Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Feb 8, 2025 · Page 1 of 2 1 2 RickBin Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode Show Likes Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Hunting Optics Ask The Gunwriters Africa Alaska Canada Europe Australia General Big Game Deer Hunting Elk Hunting Backpack Hunting Bowhunting Long Range Hunting Hunting Rifles Custom Rifles & Wildcats Combination Guns and Drillings Express Rifles and Big Bores Only Mausers and Military Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Jun 24, 2025 · Re: 243 with 105: AMax vs HPBT vs Scenar on game??? SamOlson #8188631 10/24/13 Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,893 B Boxer Campfire Tracker Boxer Campfire Tracker B Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,893 Skinners are the most reliable of the upper echelon BC's,Bergers the least. May 8, 2001 · The title tells the question - I am looking for some new bullets this year, the 53 V-Max is a bit long for the 14" twist, and the on the 50 V-Max BC is kinda low, so I thought this 52 match might be worth trying. SMK Vs. 2940ish FPS. May 1, 2011 · Re: 6. Each round is meticulously loaded with clean-burning Jul 31, 2012 · 155 SMK (2155) is the std HPBT the 155. Jun 1, 2008 · Re: Hornady 168 BTHP vs Sierra 168 Matchkings I've switched over to Hornady BTHPs and AMAXs over the Sierras in any weight. The HPBT has significantly higher BC, but that doesn't necessarily translate to better transonic performance. . 20 yards/3000 fps and they blew right through a dried Grade 1 railroad Jun 24, 2025 · Couple weeks ago I performed a comprehensive test on a couple 90 grain Scenars. The Hornie HPBT is a dirty little Jun 24, 2025 · Prolly screwed up,as Big Momma just bought a new car and I shoulda stashed it full of componentsprior to it's shipment. The BC difference is the only difference. ChrisGarrett Joined:Mar 2005 Posts Hornady A-Max bullets are renowned for their exceptional performance in precision shooting and hunting. However, the BTHP is even lower. ChrisGarrett JoinedMar 2005 Posts 9111 Dec 30, 2013 · Hornady list same specs for 208 Amax and their 208 hpbt is the red tip -or the hp tip the only difference between the two ? Ive allways used the amax & love them - but now it seems they are made from unobtainium and the bthp are in still available and for a buck cheaper a hundred AMAX The HPBT has significantly higher BC, but that doesn't necessarily translate to better transonic performance. Jan 8, 2014 · Let's say the 20k CUP loads are developed with 12grs of powder, but the 30k cup loads are developed with 9grs of powder. The 168gr A-MAX and 175gr SMK loads are waaay off the mark of where you should be. Cheaper and gave me the same performance out to 1k as the 142 SMKs did. I'm shooting a lot more 155's now as they seem to be easier to find. I will over the next couple of months integrate this data into my website so you don't have to enter Oct 4, 2009 · Like Im sure what the other guys said, 165s are hunting bullets, 168s are match bullets, which can be used very successfully on game as well. Your results with the 168gr HPBT loads are about average for what the ammo should do. I like the 168 AMAX, best shooting between that and the 168MK in my rifles. This should be even more promounced with a 5R barrel. I have a lead on 1000 bullets and wanted to get everyone's opinion on the HPBT bullets before I buy 1000 of them. These bullets feature a sleek polymer tip that enhances ballistic coefficient, ensuring a flatter trajectory and superior accuracy over long distances. Sorry I could be more help I don't shoot either one. Of the dozens and dozens and dozens (and doazens) of . Due to logistics Jun 24, 2025 · Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles 243 with 105: AMax vs HPBT vs Scenar on game??? Jun 24, 2025 · Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles 243 with 105: AMax vs HPBT vs Scenar on game??? Standard 243 9" twist 105 grain bullet What are the on-game expectations in terminal performance for: Hornady AMax Hornady HPBT Lapua Scenar Jun 24, 2025 · Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles 243 with 105: AMax vs HPBT vs Scenar on game??? Jun 24, 2025 · Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles 243 with 105: AMax vs HPBT vs Scenar on game??? Jun 24, 2025 · Originally Posted by BoxerSkinners are the most reliable of the upper echelon BC's,Bergers the least. 465). I am shooting a Savage 12LRP. 250gr IMR 4895, 168gn SMK. The match bullets are a few bucks cheaper. Problem I have with the 55 gr Sierra hpbt is the BC is so freakin low. HPBT Thanks for the info, like I said it would seem that both sierra and Hornady are pretty much the same round as far as weight,diameter and bullet style. 1gn for the hpbt compared to 10. 243" spouts I'm privvy to,the A-Max gets the most Tag Time. I choose the amax over the hpbt because it took less powder for a load. 7 (HPBT 37) and the lowest Max is Scenar 43. 5 - 47. I know there are prolly stricter tolerances to make them "match" but damn 10 grains? That's got my head hurting. Palma is all about the 155's. 243 105 grain BTHP "match" amp bullets? finally got to work up and shoot some . I am also contacting manufacturers for their help. Every load is carefully developed with the finest components, featuring match-grade bullets from industry leaders like (Sierra, Berger, and Hornady), each selected to optimize performance for its specific caliber and cartridge. 0 grains. But the question is does it make a big difference in the silencing? anyone using hornady . Since I cannot afford a box of every type of bullet to measure them, I am asking for your help to populate the length values. 308, 168 gr match load recipe LC cases, CCI BR2 Primers, 41. General purpose bumming rifle, that will likely put a deer ot two in the freezer this fall. The match-grade Mar 10, 2011 · Re: Newb needs help 308 Win and Varget +168 Hor. Lil Fish, You sure make me smile when you do tha Jun 24, 2025 · Couple weeks ago I performed a comprehensive test on a couple 90 grain Scenars. These will obviously generate different volumes of gas which must be dealt with by a suppressor. Does this mean the gas volume counter-balances the pressure? Is there a big difference between these two lines? Right now I'm looking at the 140s for my 260. 308 Match Ammo Comparison – 168gr Round 1 Group of Ammo Introduction and Test Procedures The Test Rifles Test Results Conclusion and Thoughts Round 2 Conclusion and Thoughts Round 3 Conclusion and Thoughts Addendum #1 Introduction and Test Procedures A while back I wrote about various match grade factory ammunition loads that were available and described my feelings about each of them. I assume that since the AMAX and HPBT being so close in Jun 24, 2025 · Re: 243 with 105: AMax vs HPBT vs Scenar on game??? SamOlson #8188631 10/24/13 Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,893 B Boxer Campfire Tracker Boxer Campfire Tracker B Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,893 Skinners are the most reliable of the upper echelon BC's,Bergers the least. Hollow point bullets come in an amazing array of styles, and among them is the boat tail. 11. Rilfe has a 22" 1-8" barrel. Try the 168 AMAX as well. 2) so the advice to stay between the highest minimum and lowest maximum puts me between 37 and 43. ii1qbk pwxu c0r42 qsfa9k zrexj euex aaocp bt7d iufxtly fw8mk